2 votes. Zymogen. Btw, the Victreebell is actually an Excadrill. The only Hoenn Pokemon who might make a better HM mule than Ludicolo is Crawdaunt. They can also learn rock smash and evolve at level 15. . _stickfigure_ 13 years ago #5. Found the Perfect HM slave. Early on in the postgame (or possibly on Route 10, IDK) you'll get a Super Rod from someone, and if you fish in a "rippling spot" (the water equivalent of a shaking grass patch) then you stand. However, I would like to delete some of the HM moves (so I can give Feraligatr a move like Earthquake instead of Cut) and put them all on one or two particular Pokemon. Not like Gen 4 where you need multiple HM slaves to cut, defog, surf, waterfall, rock smash, strength, and rock climb. Exactly what I did for my HM slave. Strength. ago. Mitholan 8 years ago #5. Let me give you an example. . However, I can’t deny the fact that Haxorus is an objectively better Pokémon than Salamence. HM Locations. ~Waterfall. But my HM Gyarados can still fight well in battle, so I don't usually encounter this problem. . 2nd gen i used krabby for surf/cut/strength/whirlpool and tentacool for whirlpool/waterfall/surf (though most waters do this) 3rd gen Tropius, cut/flash/fly/strength (or rock smash) 4th bibarel, easily. For my playthrouugh of Alpha sapphire, my heart goes out to Bubblez the azumarill, for surfing, diving waterfalling and digging, and Bananasoar the Tropius, for flying, cutting, being moderately strong and rock smashing. (n. re: HM slaves - Pokémon Soul Silver. Unfortunately, Rufflet is a White 2 exclusive Pokemon. How longe are you a slave? A slave was a slave for life. It can learn strength, cut, and rock smash which are the most annoying HMs to have to have. But most of the time, you won't need HMs. What is the best hm slave for FireRed? Well not every Pokemon can learn all the hm moves, try tropius. It knows Cut, Surf, Waterfall, and Dive. Then Tentacruel for Cut, Surf, Dive, and Waterfall. Nice, thanks for the heads up. It can learn Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, and Surf. 1. ago. Those would be Skarmory and Tropius at level 1. Linoone evolves from Zigzagoon at level 20. You don't really need any HMs, other than that first time that you had to cut the tree in the Dream Yard. These Legendaries are just HM slaves. Sentret is the worst in every way. HM mules will typically have three or four move slots occupied with field moves, allowing smooth passage through caves, across oceans, or past other. (Not all of these are HM moves but they are still useful for inside caves!) Give Raichu Flash, Dig, Rock Smash, and Strength. geebeedrill 14 years ago #3. I'd ditch both Azumarill and Scizor. it's pretty good. It can learn almost every HM. Constitution: 9/17/1787 - 1/20/2009An HM-slave Gyarados would have: -Surf (bit of a waste since it's a special attack, but it has STAB at least) -Waterfall (a pretty powerful physical water attack with STAB) -Dive (used to be a crappy move, but now has 80 power; it's physical and also has STAB) -Strength (decent normal attack with no STAB, but with Gyarados's high attack, would. TM-wise, it should be taught Scald very soon and potentially Rain Dance at level 34. answered Sep 28, 2014 by Rick Gastly. Fly is completely optional, as usual, but you won’t have access to the soaring feature until after the 8th gym. Garchomp_is_lam 15 years ago #2. 125K subscribers. Nidoking/Nidoqueen. . Defog. found out dabura is pretty much the best HM slave. Bibarel and Tropious are my HM slaves, and they too can learn all the HMs between them. silver_knux 14 years ago #3. AK_Wolfman 15 years ago #5. If you get good at making excuses, it's difficult to get good at anything else. 2. Since in AS/OR you can use the Eon flute for flying, Linoone is the only HM slave you need in your party unless you need to dive or get up a waterfall. Hi there! As suggested by Codraroll, I've decided to start a thread discussing teambuilding in-game. Just switch your HM slave in and out of your PC whenever you need one. 5 kg (111. The Surf HM is Corsola's best Water-type STAB move, with Strength and Rock Smash providing HM utility. yzman 11 years ago #8. 1 Answer. 2. It can also learn Rock Smash, which is still a TM in this generation, but it's very useful. Element-17 12 years ago #2. 5 3. Linoone evolves from Zigzagoon at level 20. Linoone. *fistbump*. It makes a great HM slave with STAB Surf and Fly. I really can't think of much to put here, so conversation away! Questions to get you started (feel free to suggest): Do you use HM slaves or do you share the load among the team. More than that, he makes arguably the best HM slave yet, as Bidoof are available very early in Sinnoh, are easily caught, and (after turning into Bibarel) can eventually learn a plethora of HM attacks. Krabby/Kingler makes an excelent slave, at least back in the Second Generation games. . Where to find the HMs in HeartGold/SoulSilver. Pockets |. With enough Happiness, Return’s base power can rival moves like Surf and Earthquake. -Strength. In the first Gen, Mew is by far the best HM slave for getting about. You needn't worry about Rock Smash or Rock Climb or what have you, as they've lost their HM status for this game. Linoone was one of my best pokemon in my first run of emerald. Also, Dive is obtained after the Elite 4. Linoone and Pelipper , best hm slave for this game, smeargle or. It learns Cut and Strength as well, but has Surf. chaos_ruler 12 years ago #6. Though, if your surfing mon has a move that you can easily replace, then you can also teach it dive/waterfall. The EVs allow it to hit as hard and fast as possible. Related questions. i have cut/fly/strength on him. Gyarados as an HM slave on this game is disgraceful. If memory serves, Bibarel and Tropius learn all 8 HMs together. Well Psyduck is an awesome HM Slave - it learns Surf, Strength, Flash, Whirlpool and Waterfall. They have. This brings us to this ranking of the best HM Slaves in Kanto. Surf, Strength, Cut, and Rock Smash. You can catch a Sentret on route 70, and then you can evolve it. The Black 2. I use 2 for HM's I make Seedot use Flash, Strength, Rock Smash, then he has Hidden Power to make bases. Psyduck's another good one, he can. Its catch rate is 25 (3. PersonalityDefects. Best answer. 3. darkninja77 15 years ago #4. The best Pokémon is one who is obtained at the start of the game, can OHKO enemies off the bat, and only loses 1 HP when damaged. The coolest looking HM Slaves for sure though. Usually main members of my team get HMs that can provide good attacks (Surf mainly, sometimes Fly). Technically the best HM slave is Mew. Fly, Surf, and sometimes even Strength are all useful battle moves in the game, so all you need is something that can Cut and Flash. Pokémon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire increases the number of HMs from X/Y, bringing back Rock Smash and Dive. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. Blubelrog isn't bad. As the other guy said, though, aside from one use of Cut near the start of the game, required HM use is postgame-only, so don't worry about it too much. Like a thought parasite. You can only get him post game so it's kinda of a waste. The box Legendaries of the past have been defenders of the region. But reading this thread Tropius seems like a better choice then Farfetch'd. View source. I don`t like to ruin legendaries with HMs, infact I normally like to leave them completely untouched so I can trade them (I plan on migrating them a lot over to my Diamond. Pokemon FireRed Version. However, they are useful in most areas to access extras like items behind. skarm. Or you can use HM Gyarados (Surf, Strength, Whirlpool, Waterfall) and give Cut to a Pokemon with an open moveslot. Pokémon Black & Pokémon White actually cut back the number of HMs from previous games, from eight in Generation 4 down to six. jonosaurus • 9 yr. surgemaster140 8 years ago #4. ORAS/Gen 3 were the worst, Platinum was the best. History. Bidoof evolves into Bibarel at level 15, making him the most versatile HM slave. 4 luiga u should have fly , surf , whirlpool , water fall. Mew is the obvious choice. These Legendaries are just HM slaves. Gunbladelad 12 years ago #4. FE:Fates - MyCastle: Birthright ~ Rare Skills. Below we list every Pokémon available in Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire with the HMs they can learn. If you go back later for the Adamant and Lustrous Orbs, you'll need something with Waterfall. But not every HM mule would. He also evolves into one of the best HM slaves of all time. " Carracosta is pretty good for water based HMs (surf, dive, waterfall), Ducklette/Swanna can both learn surf and fly which is pretty handy as well. For ORAS: Tropious - fly, cut, flash, strength/rock smash Sharpedo - Surf, Dive, Waterfall, strength/rock smash. TM27 (Return) If you have a Pokémon that’s still using their generic initial move like Tackle or Pound, Return is a better option. It was a decent Pokemon and it learned every HM, except the water/flying ones, which you'd need a second Pokemon for anyway. Reply reply. View source. ive got two smeargles trained up: one as an hm slave, and the other is the one i use to catch pokes. mew. The preevolutions of Hydreigon are useless as HM Slaves, only learning Strength. BRRRRRRRRRRRRR!! If it is strenghth in attack/special attack/speed/moves, than I think rattata. ago. I use a Munchlax with the pick up ability and the HM moves Strength, Surf, Rock Smash, and Rock Climb. garydose (watefall gives it one of the very. You just need to spread Fly and Cut among the rest of your party. Also, anyone know if I can get a friend code and trade with someone over wi-fi for something that isn't in the Unova Dex. Mine: : r/pokemonuranium. Dont quote me on that tho. ago. These are the four water type HMs: •Surf- Extremely useful and one of the most important HMs. Pokefiend 13 years ago #9. 230K views 3 years ago. Which is why I end up having two of them. " Mousse9 8 years ago #4. Nice idea! Tropius HM slave that can learn 5 of the 7 including fly. The box Legendaries of the past have been defenders of the region. I'm sure the HM slave is obvious. Dragonite. Official Mawile of the Pokemon Boards. Shadow Ball is coverage. Open comment sort options Best; Top; New; Controversial; Q&A; Add a Comment. Be the very best in Sinnoh!. Slowbro - Surf, Psychic, Flash, Teleport. Furret is the better HM Slave of the two because it can learn three HM moves over Raticate's two. Flash is not an HM in HG/SS, I know, but it's still needed and my Feraligatr already has Waterfall as part of it's DD moveset, so it all works great. (comes in handy in R/B/Y for facing Articuno if you give it a different fourth move) In the Third Generation games, he's still pretty good, because he can learn: Surf. Surf (HM, gift from your rival) Strength (HM, gift from Grant) Unfortunately, I’m making Blastoise an HM slave because it learns almost all of the HMs in Kalos. darkninja77 15 years ago #4. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. Good, diverse movepools are so rare that I don't bother with HM slaves in the first Gen. -5xad0w- 7 years ago #3. This is why Bibarel and Bidoof have been dubbed "HM slaves. He also has a 1% encounter rate so you're better off leveling a Drantini or a Dragonair. Piranha Plant isn't from a dead series. Mario Maker 2 ID: Q7Q-99K-LLG. 2. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Nidoking/Nidoqueen (Surf & Strength) In Pokémon Yellow, Nidoking and Nidoqueen are easiest Pokémon to obtain that can both learn Surf and Strength. Surf can get replaced immediately after Koga. I usually use Krabby. EJ902 14 years ago #5. The water HMs work as moves along with fly, so I’ll let those pass. ago. Normal people's HM slaves: Bidoof, Lombre or Rattata. " The use of wild Pokémon for HMs in the remakes is a brilliant solution as it maintains the feel of the classic adventures while fixing one of the game's biggest issues. What is the best nature for charmander, bulbasuar and squirtle? General. :) I think Marillis better. 2. NarutoFever1 13 years ago #6. It learns: Rock Smash (D/P/Pt/HG/SS) Cut (all games) Strength (all games) Whirlpool (HG/SS). • 2 yr. Right now I've got Strength and Surf on a Herdier and I have a pidove with fly. -Rocksmash. Both can learn Dig, surf, strength, i think waterfall and rock smash aswell. LeviJones 15 years ago #2. I wound up just giving Strength to my Darmanitan, and don't bother carrying a Cutter with me. 7 m (5′07″) tall and weighs 50. And it’s more powerful than Take Down or Body Slam once Happiness is maxed out. See the discussion at PokéCommunity!Best HM slave kind of depends on what it is you want them to know; Bibarel is probably the best HM slave ever, but not even he can fly. 7. [deleted] • 4 yr. 4. HM Locations. gbchaosmaster 14 years ago #2. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. HM Locations. 74 new. Looking for 2 pokemon 2 share 7 of 8 hm's between them. A term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is used for navigational support through the use of field moves—generally those taught by Hidden Machines. The “best hm pokémon fire red” is a question about which Pokémon can learn all HM moves in the game. In the first Gen, Mew is by far the best HM slave for getting about. From Geodude to Patrat, here are 10 of the best pokemon to catch for HM use only! 10 Tentacool. re: Best HM Slave. ninjawalruses • 10 yr. Sharpedo is objectively the best. commented Feb 19, 2020 by Fizz 2 Answers 1 vote Best answer My source shows that a lot of people agree on four good HM users: Bibarel, Skarmory, Tropius, and Rhydon. This is useful for deciding. You need Rock smash to get through Rustboro tunnel and route 111, Strength to get through victory road, Surf to get across many routes, Waterfall to get to the league, and Dive to get to Sootopolis. R - Official Slowpoketail Vendor. Bibarel is the best HM slave the game has ever seen, and you can get Bidoof the second you start the playthrough. If you want an HM slave, I highly recommend catching a Nidoran outside of Goldenrod. It takes too long to level up and in Gen 2 Dratini is only obtained late and at a very low level compared to the rest of your team. I know, I’m a hypocrite. gbchaosmaster. Amewsment Mewsic to your ears! Joined Jun 23, 2008. mew (:p muahahahahaha + one of the 2 pokemon that can learn every HM) craindose. Every Pokemon has a use, and Bibarel's is being the HM slave grandmaster. On the other hand, Psyduck also can be caught in the same place as Azurill, however it's. Gyrados was best HM slave in G/S/C anyways. ~Surf. Rock smash and Flash should be relegated to hm slaves. Bibarel is probably the best HM slave in existence. ccviridian • 5 yr. hopefully he can do rock smash as well. 3DS FC: 0602-6357-6814. :) One, you get a Pokemon that can learn four HMs, and two, you get a pick-up slave that will level up with you if you keep the EXP share on and by extension get you better items. ago. tropius is also a good hm slave. So, basically, Wargle, and Hiyakkie provides all 6. Only HM he can't learn is fly (for obvious reasons). Right now with 4 badges I'm rolling with Level 63 Pikachu Level 41 Mew Level 41 Alakazam Level 31 Alakazam Level 13 Clefairy Level 12 Oddish You can probably guess the two non-contributing factors to my team (hint: its not the two Alakazams). Catching one early and evolving it into Bibarel can give Pokemon players the best HM slave the series has ever seen. 12. 1. Victreebel has better options than Acid: Razor Leaf. 1. Getting a Bidoof to level 15 or catching a Bibarel is cake work. ago. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment HighwayWizard • Additional comment actions. Most HMs aren't good in battle, anyway (except Surf). Pockets |. Dragonite. In PokeMMO literature, utility Pokemons focused on HMs called HM slave. Michael answered: I would say the best HM Slave in FireRed would be Gyarados. To help you choose the finest hm slave heartgold available on the market, we have produced a detailed guide. Yes, you can get around it with an HM slave. The aim of slaves are to have all of the HM's that you need on your specific route in the smallest amount of pokemon possible. If you can get one, Smeargle can Sketch any move, and you can. Lmao, yes I fused it with air and use it as the hm slave 🤣 . Rock Smash, Strength, Dive, Waterfall, and the fastest Surf in the game. My favorite HM slave has always been tropius. Swanna > Fletchling because of Waterfall - again this. The move Whirlpool is not an HM and not used for anything outside of GSC. Samurott. In short, this salamander-inspired Pokémon is an HM hero, and people need to realize it. He can learn all HM moves. Tentacruel, Kabutops, Lanturn, Quagsire, Suicune, Crawdaunt, Empoleon, and Mew are some of the best results accorting to this. Good stats, but has a shallow level-up movepool. of school!" "Ha ha ha. 4. Element-17 15 years ago #3. "Until the end. machamp. Sets up my Samurott for a guaranteed outspeed Rain Dance Mystic Water STAB, or itself, because Hurricane always hits in Rain. Urvilan • 2 yr. And it still hits hard as Waterfall, Surf & Dive are STAB. Cut Fly Surf Strength Flash Interactive checklist of the Hidden Machines (HMs) found in Pokémon Red, Blue & Yellow, their locations and which Pokémon can learn them. I just used the Mew glitch to get two Mews, one for battling and one for an HM Slave, taught it Fly, Flash, Cut, and left the. Solid_Snake420. It also learns every HM, heals itself automatically, and has some neat ability to top it off. What Megas do. This is the place where you can give your Pokémon to. It learns four HMs in Generation II, including two of the most useless, Flash and Whirlpool. An HM-slave Gyarados would have: -Surf (bit of a waste since it's a special attack, but it has STAB at least) -Waterfall (a pretty powerful physical water attack with STAB) -Dive (used to be a crappy move, but now has 80 power; it's physical and also has STAB) -Strength (decent normal attack with no STAB, but with Gyarados's high attack, would. "Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent. It can learn HM 1,3, and 5. Introduction. 3DS FC/Name: 4828-4041-0022/C Pokemon Y IGN: Termiine/ Safari: Grumpig Espurr Duosion. Bibarel is your best HM and TM slave without Flash (Cut, Dig, Surf, Rock Climb, Covet/Thief, Strength, Waterfall, Rock Smash, Dive) I use Kingler if cut needed or Quagsire if Flash is needed. best HM slave? MegaArceus 7 years ago #1. Slugma/Magcargo don't provide any additional utility compared to Camerupt and Magmar, but Slugma is the easiest Flame Body /. What's the best HM slave? kenneth7415 13 years ago #1. Carracosta can learn Surf, Waterfall, Dive, and Strength. For XY Bibarel - Cut, Strength, Surf, Waterfall Talon Flame - Fly. In case of move pool: oshawatt is best Also good hm slave. Mew would also be a good option, but I doubt you would want to ruin its moveset (it is better off as a. . Cut+Flash+Strength: Bulbasaur, Mew. Best answer. I generally am not a fan of the move fly so I like having. Tentacool: Cut, Surf, Dive, Whirlpool, Waterfall. My Crystal version Krabby has: Surf. PokeCommunitySo to do it legit, you’d need to get Charizard in Red or Blue, run through a Yellow game until you get Fly, then trade Red’s Charizard for Yellow’s, have Yellow teach Fly, then swap back to continue. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that had HMs. Swanna gets Fly, Surf, and Dive which is useful for travelling everywhere. [deleted] • 4 yr. I like Bibarel and Tropius myself, although I'm sure there are better. You are the best HM slave in Zeta/Omicron, because HM items are badass and let you have pokemon with. Dont quote me on that tho. Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. Pokemon Gaia Archived post. best hm slaves? Lukvier 12 years ago #1. Those were gyarodos and tropius. Flygon - Steel Wing - Fly - Dragon Claw - Crunch / Earthquake. Zymogen. Surf is also coverage but it is an HM to boot. Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Fly. Dive and Waterfall should be used on an hm slave like wailmer. Give him Fly, Rock Smash, Strength, and Cut. since: Mar 2009. Because it's annoying having HM slaves, I cheated a big and traded over the two for my playthrough SoulSilver. Linoone. KillerFugu • 4 yr. Hawlucha can also learn False Swipe, which is useful for catching things. It also learns every HM, heals itself automatically, and has some neat ability to top it off. I personally will have waterfall on my imported 5IV marshthomp, and will use a swellow alongside a crawdaunt. I used 2 HM slaves so the other 4 Pokemon could gain more experience, and those 2 HM slaves are. Psyduck's another good one, he can. Tropius and Skarmory can learn Fly, and Rhydon does anything that the rest might not have move slots for. 6. having HM slaves take up the limited space on your team. Ispamedthis-name • 4 yr. c_s_tadsen ( Expert ) - 2 years ago - report. Pokemon Alpha Sapphire IGN: Haruka. commented Feb 19, 2020 by Fizz 2. -Dig/Surf---whichever one you need, but considering surf is actually a good move, one of your water Pokemon will probably have it. In Gen 4, Tropius: Cut, Defog, Fly, Rock Smash. Also: Dig and thief. Below we list every Pokémon available in Generation 4 with the HMs they can learn in Diamond, Pearl & Platinum. He's a great HM slave though. Dragonit is great, but is difficult to opbtain. Mar 20, 10 at 5:25pm (PST) ^. Here's some movesets. Gyarados is a good. Fates Castle Address - 12644-28577-90353-44066 Ft. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me. Friend Codes - Exchange Here 2023! 50 posts, 11/4 4:59PM. sqwigizzzzzzz 15 years ago #4. Urvilan • 2 yr. Cut: SS Anne (from the Captain) Fly: Route 16 (from girl north of Cycling Road entrance)You just need to spread Fly and Cut among the rest of your party. Fly is a decent flying move so not really a slave. Such a Pokémon doesn't exist, of course, but this means that Pokémon closer to this ideal are the best. The point in HM slaves are to get as many HM's onto 2 pokemon as possible. Bibarel is probably the best HM slave in existence. And maybe some others, I'm not sure, but I am about those since that is the moveset for mine. ago. I only used an HM slave once. This difficulty occurs because to the wide variety of hm slave heartgold available on the market. For a cave HM slave, use Raichu. " - The citizens of Palmacosta. I have a Bunnelby who does Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, and Cut. Your the government's problem now!"-Homer and Marge, The Simpsons. But none of these are flying types obviously. He could just have really low special stats, and high attack and defense. Though eventually your HM slaves will be Sharpedo and Tropius Reply DisasterAhead • Additional comment actions. Also: Dig and thief. You can get a Bidoof very early in-game, and Bibarel pop up not long after. Like in Pokémon Red & Blue, Krabby can learn Cut, Strength, and Surf. I usually try & have my team each learn one or two HM moves so I won't have to use a slot for an HM Slave. We will live to see another day. Also you may want an HM slave to carry the weak HMs like Rock-smash and Cut. The puzzles weren’t too complicated, but many fans felt it distracted from gameplay and caused Strength to be hated by many because of this. Fly. can he be found early game? 2.